hmg Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 On 18/06/2016 at 0:29 PM, LaCroix said: https://footballski.fr/croatie-euro-2016-croatie-modele-stalinien Plus complet et moins exhaustif hmg, toi qui connais pas mal le club, Dinamo ja te volim, l'hymne des BBB, c'est pas aussi l'hymne du club? Me semblait qu'il était diffusé à l'entrée des joueurs. En tout cas c'est un des meilleurs qui soit Les années 90 en ex-Yougoslavie niveau dégaines >>>> Ouais c'est l'hymne des BBB mais je l'ai jamais entendu lors de l'entrée des joueurs au stade. Peut être que je me trompe parce que j'y ai pas fait gaffe, mais il me semble pas l'avoir entendu à Maksimir. Les articles de footballski sur le foot croate sont toujours bien documentés
vins31 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Hmg, t'en penses quoi de ça ? http://www.sofoot.com/ce-que-nous-avons-fait-nous-l-avons-fait-pour-la-justice-224714.html
hmg Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 47 minutes ago, vins31 said: Hmg, t'en penses quoi de ça ? http://www.sofoot.com/ce-que-nous-avons-fait-nous-l-avons-fait-pour-la-justice-224714.html Qu'il a raison sur tout (sauf à dire que le HDZ est le principal parti, c'est faire de peu de cas de la gauche et du SDP). Mamic gangrène le Dinamo et la sélection, Cacic n'est qu'un pantin, ancien entraineur du Dinamo, avant de prendre la sélection, il était entraineur du Lokomotiva qui n'est que la réserve du Dinamo qui joue en L1 croate. Si Cacic est sélectionneur, c'est juste parce que Mamic l'a décidé et que Suker ne suit que ses ordres. Après pour les joueurs, je le trouve un peu dur parce que quand tu es formé au Dinamo et que tu perces en équipe une, tu n'as pas d'autres choix que de prendre le frère de Mamic comme agent. Et il faut bien avouer que le seul truc qui fonctionne au Dinamo, c'est la formation. Après effectivement, il y a des sélections plus que douteuses juste dans le but de faire monter la valeur d'un joueur. (Pokrivac par exemple pour les monégasques, Antolic actuellement...). Il est aussi clair que l'absence dans la sélection à l'Euro de Lovren ou de Halilovic est juste dû au fait qu'ils sont en conflit avec Mamic, les excuses officielles sont un secret de polichinelle. Le football n'est juste qu'une partie de l'iceberg de la corruption généralisée qui règne dans ce pays et il a bien raison de se demander comment la Croatie a pu rentrer dans l'UE (et attention, y'a pire, les serbes arrivent ). Le communiqué de la Torcida en anglais: "In the light of recent events, it is our prerogative (being the first organized supporters group in Europe) to tackle the source of misbehaving of Croatian fans, during the last match of the European Championship. Do not be mistaken, they are CROATIAN FANS, maybe more so than those who accuse them today. Croatian fans live their emotions and consider the national team to be sacred, but are at the same time ready to hurt their teams’ chances for progress in search of international help. Clutching your fist at your own kin is the hardest thing to do, but when all other options are depleted, it is the only way to seek justice. This raises the question of how desperate the fans must be, when they are willing to risk high fines and prison time, just to send a message? Even though the supporters group “Torcida” was not in any way related to this emotional outburst, we couldn’t in all truth say it was not expected. For the past five years we have been warning all government and football officials, about the massive dissatisfaction and miss agreement with where our national football is heading. Our Football Federation is crippled with affairs, infested with criminals and run by marionettes and dirtymoney. Zdravko Mamić , who is the current executive director of our Football federation, is at the moment pending criminal charges for misuse of position and authority, bribery and embezzling , of over 15.1 million Euros. This all happened while he was Executive Director of GNK Dinamo, a position he kept up until the court gave him a banning order to conduct any executive work, while the trial and investigation are taking place. He was charged for embezzlingmoney in the following way: at the time of a players transfer, he would sign an annex to the professional contract in which the player would have the right to 50% of the total amount of future transfer fees, even though in reality the player did not have any claim to that money. The club would then pay that money to the player, and the player would return the money in cash to Zdravko Mamic or other members of his family. Also, his brother who is the current manager of GNK Dinamo was charged for taking over 3.1 million Euros in loans from GNK Dinamo in a two year span. Charges indicate that he had returned those loans by taking 50% of players transfer fees and returning the money to GNK Dinamo, while keeping the rest for himself. Police departments dealing with organized crime; found the testimony of Liverpool FC defenderDejan Lovren to be quite interesting. As part of the aforementioned scheme, GNK Dinamo had made a payment of 3.4 million Euros to Dejan Lovren, as a part of his fees for the transfer to Liverpool FC. According to the investigation, what actually happened was that Dejan Lovren kept only 200,000 Euros for himself, while the rest of the money he gave to Zdravko Mamic or some of his family members in cash. On a further note, Zdravko Mamic is also pending criminal charges for tax evasion of up to 1.6 mil Euros, and at the same time is charged for bribing a tax officer who did not charge any income or other local taxes to Dinamo Zagreb. Zdravko Mamic has risen to power and accumulated capital during an after war period, a time in which crony capitalism and corruption were spread around Croatia. During those years he became friends or had funded numerous important people in Croatia. He is a close friend and an associate of Milan Bandic, the controversial major of Zagreb. He is also a close friend with the Head of County Court of Zagreb Ivan Turudić and has also funded the election campaign of the ruling political party in Croatia. The current President of Republic of Croatia, also had her presidential campaign funded by Zdravko Mamic. He even organized a private birthday party for her, which was placed in his villa, and attended by her and a number of other Croatian politicians. Whenever Zdravko Mamic gets indicted for something, he calls in a favor and ends up in the company of high-ranking Government officials like the current First Deputy Prime Minister Tomislav Karamarko. Just recently, briefly after Mamic was released from custody, they have been witnessed while having a private meeting. After those meetings, somehow all his indictments tend to end up in the “back draw” of the judicial system. Even the Director of the Special Intelligence Agency was relieved of duty, shortly after the President of Croatia found out that Zdravko Mamic was under surveillance in a pending investigation. Although GNK Dinamo are the current Croatian football league champions, their title was celebrated by less than 500 people on the stands. While he was executive director of FC Dinamo, he first placed his brother to be the sports director and soon after the manager of the club. All of this obvious corruption and nepotism drove away all the Dinamo supporters who were not satisfied with the way this publicly owned club is governed. When the manager of the Croatian national team was not obedient to him, Zdravko Mamic fired him and installed two of his “puppets”, Davor Suker as the Football Federation president, Ante Cacic, (who was at the time coach of GNK Dinamo B team called FC Lokomotiva), while at the same time naming himself as the executive director Currently, a total of 16 out of 23 national team player, allegedly have usurious contracts with Zdravko Mamic, which means that he gets a cut of all earnings, salaries, bonuses and transfer fees they make. It is estimated that he gets 40.000 Euros overall from the players for every win and 20.000 Euros for every draw on EURO 2016 in France, all made as cash payments. The latest example is the world’s best midfielder Luka Modric. In the pending lawsuit against Mamic, Luka Modric testified in front of police investigators that according to the terms of his civil contract, he is obliged to make cash payments (which range from 25-30% of his total earnings) to Zdravko Mamic. Usually this is hidden from the public eye, but some players decided to resist. A good example is the former Arsenal FC striker Eduardo Da Silva. He was not willing to make cash payments to Zdravko Mamic anymore and took the whole thing to court. According to his usurious contract, he had to pay 40% of his total earnings. Due to the fact that Zdravko Mamic had through the football federation paid numerous fees for “financial consultation” to at least two County Court judges (Jasna Smiljancic and Ivica Veselic), from the very beginning it was obvious that Eduardo did not stand a chance in Croatian courts. Zdravko Mamic still rules the Croatian Football Federation and gets to pick a coach as well as all the players. Remember Alen Halilovic, the 20 year old FC Barcelona “wunderkind”, who had a great year playing for Real Sporting de Gijon. He is not a part of the squad on EURO 2016, because he ended his relationship with Zdravko Mamic on bad terms and allegedly does not give him a cut of the earnings. Another good example is the aforementioned 26 year old Liverpool FC defender Dejan Lovren. A player who was in the starting line-up at this years’ UEFA Europa League final against FC Sevilla, was also not invited to EURO 2016 team, because he refused “to be obedient” and spoke out in public. It is clear to everybody in Croatia that players in rotation are called solely from GNK Dinamo for the purpose of raising their price on the international market. Remember Tempers flare at EURO 2016 who played in starting lineup against Cameroon in World Cup in Brazil 2014?He was later sold to Getafe FC and never called to the national team again. People in Croatia grow weary of these choices and feel we could play a much more important role in international football, only if the team selection was based on quality and not Zdravko Mamic’s private interests. Croatian fans tried every democratic way to enforce some order in Croatian Football Federation. Even the Croatian parliament, which was pressured by the general public and football fans, passed a law called Sports’ Act , which was supposed to make funding and finances of all sport clubs in Croatia transparent. Croatian Football Federation and GNK Dinamo (both ruled by Zdravko Mamic) issued a statement that the government law does not apply to them and they shall not abide. Predrag Šustar, the current Minister of Sport (under whose authority this law should be enforced) does nothing, because he is a member of the Party funded by Zdravko Mamic. The president of the Republic of Croatia was also member of that same Party. Concerning Davor Suker, the current President of our Football Federation, we are sad to say that the days of his glory are far behind him. A player, who was once seen as a national hero, now is nothing more than a criminal offender (convicted of stealing 25.000 Euros worth of Greek golden coins from an airplane) and a puppet of Mamic, who is looking for an easy living at the expense of our Football Federation. It is sad to have the feeling that your national team is stolen from you, and that it is now in the hands of criminals who could not care less about our homeland as far as their wallets are full. This and many other reasons is why we are afraid that ignoring the symptoms created a state that is about to inflame the whole system, which will end in catharsis. Croatian Football Federation is in need of redemption to its fans, and the only solution is that all executives resign their positions and we start all over. Help our fans kick criminals out of football and take back the national team!"
HaGu Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 La passe de Silva sur l'appel, lointain, de Cesc ... c beau
Piou Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 La Croatie c'est vraiment costaud... Les simulations espagnoles
fredC Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Lolesque ce peno Ah ben tiens ça leur apprendra à pas respecter l'adversaire ... Ramos pour un peno y avait vraiment personne d'autre ???
Floolf Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 il y a 4 minutes, Piou a dit : La Croatie c'est vraiment costaud... Depuis le début.
GG Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 il y a 4 minutes, fredC a dit : Lolesque ce peno Ah ben tiens ça leur apprendra à pas respecter l'adversaire ... Ramos pour un peno y avait vraiment personne d'autre ???
GG Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 On a bien fait de terminer premier de notre poule : Manque plus que le Portugal dans le bas de tableau
chubee Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Grave !!! Partie de tableau affreuse avec italie espagne allemagne angleterre!!!!! de l'autre cote y a personneeeee!!!! Belgique ou croatie en finale !
hmg Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Les croates sans Modric, Brozovic et Mandzukic et Vida se font les espagnols!! Que c'est bon quand même!!
max65 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 il y a 2 minutes, hmg a dit : Les croates sans Modric, Brozovic et Mandzukic et Vida se font les espagnols!! Que c'est bon quand même!! Très belle équipe Croate (encore 1 fois)... Bisous à l'arbitre Japonais qui a tréflé les Croates lors du dernier mondial
hmg Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Comme on est sur un forum d'élite, je n'en peux plus d'entendre les noms des croates écorchés par les commentateurs télés. Ca me parait pas très compliqué d'apprendre les prononciations... Donc une fois pour toute, voici comment ça se prononce, vous pourrez briller en société: Subasic : Soubachitch Corluka : Tchorlouka Vida : Vida Jedvaj : Yedvay Srna : Seurna Strinic : Strinitch Vrsaljko : Veursalyeko Badelj : Badelye (le "j" c'est ye comme son) Rakitic, Modric : Vous savez le prononcer Perisic : Perichitch Mandzukic : Mandjoukitch Kovacic : Kovatchitch Pjaca : Piatsa Rog : Rog Brozovic : Brozovitch Kalinic : Kalinitch Vous savez tout, vous ne ferez plus d'erreur dans le futur et vous pourrez même reprendre vos proches!!
hmg Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 8 minutes ago, Bebs said: Dado Prso c'était comment ? Peurcho
LaCroix Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Bon, au moins y a pas qu'ici que les journalistes sont complètement cons http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/euro-2016-pique-a-t-il-fait-un-doigt-d-honneur-pendant-l-hymne-espagnol-991269.html
Stormy31 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 Posté(e) 21 juin 2016 il y a 2 minutes, LaCroix a dit : Bon, au moins y a pas qu'ici que les journalistes sont complètement cons http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/euro-2016-pique-a-t-il-fait-un-doigt-d-honneur-pendant-l-hymne-espagnol-991269.html Comme tu l'avais annoncé pour des trucs plus tragiques, c'est hélas la prime au sensationnel : tout le monde balance une fausse info pour le plaisir de dire après qu'ils ont été les premiers à l'annoncer, et que ça soit vrai ou faux.
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